Go to the Source - All Things Product Podcast with Teresa Torres & Petra Wille

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In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres unpack one of their favorite guiding principles: "Go find the source." With the rise of social media hot takes and oversimplified content, it’s easy to misunderstand product frameworks and best practices. Petra and Teresa share real-life examples—from OKRs to Opportunity Solution Trees—to show why it's so important to dig deeper, trace ideas back to credible origins, and seek out diverse perspectives.
Whether you're tired of shallow takes on LinkedIn or just want to sharpen your product thinking, this episode will help you build a more thoughtful, informed, and intentional product practice.
Topics Covered:
- Why “go find the source” is a crucial product mindset
- The danger of relying on second- or third-hand takes
- Real examples: OKRs, Jobs to Be Done, North Star Metric, Opportunity Solution Trees
- How to identify reputable sources—and red flags to watch for
- Tips for curating your own learning journey (books, blogs, podcasts)
- How social media can distort ideas (even when people have good intentions)
Key Takeaways:
- Primary > Secondary: Always seek out original thinkers or practitioners, not just content repackagers.
- Go deeper than LinkedIn tiles: Good frameworks get diluted when simplified for social media. Go back to the original articles, books, or talks.
- Read with range: Challenge yourself to find three different sources—especially with diverse backgrounds or perspectives.
- Don’t trust content without citations: Like in academia, a lack of references is a red flag.
- Practitioner voices matter: Look for people sharing what they’re actually doing, not just what “should” be done.
Resources & Links:
- Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org
- Follow Petra Wille: https://Petra-Wille.com
Mentioned in the episode:
- Radical Focus by Christina Wodtke
- Jobs to Be Done Theory by Clayton Christensen
- Jobs to be Done: Theory to Practice by Anthony W. Ulwick
- The Jobs-to-be-Done Handbook: Practical techniques for improving your application of Jobs-to-be-Done by Bob Moesta and Chris Spiek
- STRONG product people: A Complete Guide to Developing Great Product Managers by Petra Wille
- Objectives and key results (OKR, alternatively OKRs) by Andrew Grove who introduced the approach to Intel. It was then popularized by Google and John Doerr’s book, Measure What Matters
- Amplitude’s North Star Playbook
- Opportunity Solution Trees: Visualize Your Discovery to Stay Aligned and Drive Outcomes by Teresa Torres
- A Crucial Turning Point: OKRs in Conversation with Rick Klau
- How Google sets goals: OKRs / Startup Lab Workshop by GV (Google Ventures)
Some of Teresa and Petra’s favorite original sources:
- John Cutler’s The Beautiful Mess
- Christina Wodtke
- Scandinavian Product Podcast by Afonso Franco
- From Endless Growth to Equitable Prosperity by Ronnie Varghese
- Shane Parrish’s Farnam Street
- Francesca Cortesi (formerly at Hemnet
- Product at Heart Video Archive
- Mind the Product Blog
- The Intercom Blog
- Figma Blog
- Amplitude Blog
- Beauty Shot Newsletter by Tim Leberecht & House of Beautiful
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