Training vs. Coaching - All Things Product Podcast with Teresa Torres & Petra Wille

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What’s the difference between product training and product coaching—and why does it matter?
In this episode, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres unpack a topic that comes up all the time in product orgs: when do individuals and teams need structured training, and when is it time to bring in a coach? They walk through the core differences, share frameworks to help you decide what kind of support your team actually needs, and explore the skill-building journey from reading a book to mastering advanced discovery practices.
Whether you’re an individual contributor trying to sharpen your discovery skills or a product leader wondering how to support your team, this episode breaks it all down with clarity and real-world examples.
Tune in to learn:
✅ Why this conversation matters: Coaching is trendy, but is it always the right tool?
✅ Defining the difference between knowledge (training) and capability (skill-building)
✅ The role of flipped classrooms and experiential learning in product training
✅ Petra’s take on when coaching becomes valuable (hint: it’s not step one)
✅ Teresa’s 3 learning stages: concept, practice, and applying in context
✅ Why training is often a better starting point than coaching
✅ The case for community of practice as a “training alternative”
✅ When coaching really shines: dealing with org-specific or context-heavy challenges
✅ Coaching as a shortcut for product leaders (and the gap in leadership training)
✅ How coaching and training can work together — especially in scaled orgs
✅ Teresa’s flipped classroom model in practice (what it looks like in her courses)
✅ What makes a great product coach (hint: it’s not just experience at big-name companies)
✅ 7,500+ product coaches on LinkedIn?! A teaser for an upcoming episode on how to choose one
Key Takeaways:
- Training ≠ Coaching. Training builds foundational knowledge and skills. Coaching helps you apply them in your unique context.
- Skill building takes structured practice. Reading a book isn’t enough—people need reps, feedback, and guided experiences.
- Coaching is most valuable when teams already have baseline skills and face org-specific blockers.
- You don’t need to be a certified coach to be effective. Experience in the craft and knowing how to support others in real-world contexts is often more important.
- Leaders need targeted learning, too. But leadership-specific product training is still hard to find.
Resources & Links:
- Follow Teresa Torres: https://ProductTalk.org
- Follow Petra Wille: https://Petra-Wille.com
Mentioned in the episode:
- Becoming a Product Coach by Marty Cagan
SVPG - General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)
- Opportunity Solution Trees: Visualize Your Discovery to Stay Aligned and Drive Outcomes by Teresa Torres
- Drowning in Product Content? Here’s How to Focus and Thrive by Petra Wille
- Continuous Discovery Habits by Teresa Torres
- Story-Based Customer Interviews Uncover Much-Needed Context by Teresa Torres
- Continuous Interviewing Course by Teresa Torres
- Communities of Practice: What They Are, What They Do, and What I’m Hoping to Learn by Petra Wille
- Coaching for Product Leaders/Executives by Petra Wille
- Why Agile Coaches Can’t Be Product Coaches by Petra Wille
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